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#209272 - 05/06/08 08:08 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Dizzy]
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Originally Posted By: Dizzy
It's just too overwhelming. There aren't words to describe it. tongue


That describes kris laugh
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#209307 - 05/06/08 05:04 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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I see the stir stick has been passed to you now Tral. peace
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#210037 - 05/14/08 07:03 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Gort]
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Air Force Aims for 'Full Control' of 'Any and All' Computers

News Source: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/05/air-force-mater.html

By Noah Shachtman May 13, 2008 | 3:54:00
PMCategories: Info War

The Air Force wants a suite of hacker tools, to give it "access" to -- and "full control" of -- any kind of computer there is. And once the info warriors are in, the Air Force wants them to keep tabs on their "adversaries' information infrastructure completely undetected."

The government is growing increasingly interested in waging war online. The Air Force recently put together a "Cyberspace Command," with a charter to rule networks the way its fighter jets rule the skies. The Department of Homeland Security, Darpa, and other agencies are teaming up for a five-year, $30 billion "national cybersecurity iniative." That includes an electronic test range, where federally-funded hackers can test out the latest electronic attacks. "You used to need an army to wage a war," a recent Air Force commercial notes. "Now, all you need is an Internet connection."

On Monday, the Air Force Research Laboratory introduced a two-year, $11 million effort to put together hardware and software tools for "Dominant Cyber Offensive Engagement." "Of interest are any and all techniques to enable user and/or root level access," a request for proposals notes, "to both fixed (PC) or mobile computing platforms... any and all operating systems, patch levels, applications and hardware." This isn't just some computer science study, mind you; "research efforts under this program are expected to result in complete functional capabilities."

Unlike an Air Force colonel's proposal, to knock down enemy websites with military botnets, the Research Lab is encouraging a sneaky, "low and slow" approach. The preferred attack consists of lying quiet, and then "stealthily exfiltrat[ing] information" from adversaries' networks.

But, in the end, the Air Force wants to see all kinds of "techniques and technologies" to "Deceive, Deny, Disrupt, Degrade, [or] Destroy" hostile systems. And "in addition to these main concepts," the Research Lab would like to see studies into "Proactive Botnet Defense Technology Development," the "reinvent[ion of] the network protocol stack" and new antennas, based on carbon nanotubes.

raditionally, the military has been extremely reluctant to talk much about offensive operations online. Instead, the focus has normally been on protecting against electronic attacks. But in the last year or so, the tone has changed -- and become more bellicose. “Cyber, as a warfighting domain . . . like air, favors the offense,” said Lani Kass, a special assistant to the Air Force Chief of Staff who previously headed up the service's Cyberspace Task Force. "If you’re defending in cyber, you’re already too late."

"We want to go in and knock them out in the first round," added Lt. Gen. Robert Elder, commander of the 8th Air Force, which focuses on network issues.

"An adversary needs to know that the U.S. possesses powerful hard and soft-kill (cyberwarfare) means for attacking adversary information and command and support systems at all levels," a recent Defense Department report notes. "Every potential adversary, from nation states to rogue individuals... should be compelled to consider... an attack on U.S. systems resulting in highly undesireable consequences to their own security."
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#210038 - 05/14/08 07:08 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Jbone]
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I don't think I like that idea at all. shakehead
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#210039 - 05/14/08 07:57 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Dizzy]
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Cyberwarfare has arrived. frown
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#210041 - 05/14/08 08:24 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Jbone]
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If it was going to be used for the original intent and nothing else I wouldn't have an argument with it, but it'll expand to the point of monitoring people who just happen to have an opinion.
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#210045 - 05/14/08 10:17 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Dizzy]
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This is a sign of the times. We are not the first to engage in this type of ""Warfare"". The Military is going to have to get on board with it and master it or be victims of it.

The only thing that I can hope for is that because of this intense work on the subject that some new radical theory comes out of it and propels us far into the future of a better life.

I have already given up on thinking that I have any privacy. History repeats itself and soon you will just have to buy everything in person again. The world is changing at an alarming rate so get ready for a thrill ride.
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#210069 - 05/14/08 08:55 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Gort]
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#210071 - 05/14/08 09:47 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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What a better way to launch an attack against an enemy. Use cyberwarfare to hack the aliens computers and have them attack with their ray guns from space. smile
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#210094 - 05/15/08 10:08 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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Thanks Tral, I saved it.

Jbone, I think I am going to go make friends with the Governor of California, because I see where the terminator could become reality. bigshock
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#210095 - 05/15/08 11:03 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Gort]
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Originally Posted By: Gort
Thanks Tral, I saved it.

Jbone, I think I am going to go make friends with the Governor of California, because I see where the terminator could become reality. bigshock


I forgot where you had your old ufo thread or would have posted it there frown
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#210163 - 05/16/08 08:29 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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#210248 - 05/17/08 06:58 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Amy]
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Originally Posted By: Amy
I'm happy you found what you needed without having to buy from Walmart smile


A manager at Wal-Mart had the task of hiring someone to fill a job opening. After sorting
through a stack of resumes he found four people who were equally qualified. He decided to
call the four in and ask them only one question. Their answer would determine which of them
would get the job.

The day came and as the four sat around the conference room table, the interviewer asked,
"What is the fastest thing you know of?"

Acknowledging the first man on his right, the man replied, "A THOUGHT." It just pops into
your head. There's no warning.

"That's very good!" replied the interviewer. "And, now you sir?" he asked the second man .

"Hmmm...let me see "A blink! It comes and goes and you don't know that it ever happened.
A BLINK is the fastest thing I know of."

"Excellent!" said the interviewer. "The blink of an eye, that's a very popular cliche for speed.
" He then turned to the third man, who was contemplating his reply.

"Well, out at my dad's ranch, you step out of the house and on the wall there's
a light switch. When you flip that switch, way out across the pasture the light on the
barn comes on in less than an instant. "Yep, TURNING ON A LIGHT is the fastest
thing I can think of"

The interviewer was very impressed with the third answer and thought he had found
his man. "It's hard to beat the speed of light," he said.

Turning to BUBBA, the fourth and final man, the interviewer posed the same question.

Old Bub replied, "After hearing the previous three Answers, it's obvious to me that the fastest
thing known is DIARRHEA."

"WHAT!?" said the interviewer, stunned by the response.

"Oh sure", said BUBBA. "You see, the other day I wasn't feeling so good, and I ran for the
bathroom, but before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHT, I had already pooped
my pants."

BUBBA is now the new greeter at a Wal-Mart near you!

You probably will think of this every time you enter a Wal-Mart from now on!...

Have a good day!!
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#210290 - 05/18/08 02:34 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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Oh that's a bad one, but funny.
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#210497 - 05/20/08 07:25 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: AutumnChicken]
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Steve Ballmer gets Egged in Hungary

..."Steve Ballmer finally gets to join his buddy Bill Gates in the "food target club" after a visit to the Hungarian University of Economy. A guy (grad student? just some dude?) stood up, yelled "Give back the money of the taxpayers" in an accent Ballmer probably couldn't understand, and started throwing eggs at him."...

Article/Video: gizmodo.com

smile

Edit: My bad, didn't realize it had been posted in the windows section. Sorry Trally. smile


Edited by Jbone (05/20/08 07:27 PM)
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#210656 - 05/21/08 11:53 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Jbone]
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#210704 - 05/22/08 08:11 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: trallyus]
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The St. Louis Science Center is going to host a event where you can follow the progression and see the first images in near-real time.

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#210758 - 05/24/08 11:28 AM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: TheOneRod]
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OK this is just not right...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-'having-sex'-with-1,000-cars.html

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#210763 - 05/24/08 02:44 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: TheOneRod]
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Those must've been some hot and sexy cars. It sounds like those cars were car-jacked. Jacked...get it.
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#210764 - 05/24/08 02:47 PM Re:News they didn't tell you at five, six, and ten [Re: Wesley]
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Gives a whole new meaning to having junk in the trunk laugh
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